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Tuesday, February 07, 2006

Follow not what you have no knowledge

And follow not ( O man, i.e. say not or do not or witness not) that of which you have no knowledge. Verily the hearing, and the sight, and the heart of each of those ones will be questioned.(Al-Qur'an Al-Isra' 17:36)

This verse has a lot of meaning to me and how many have defined it. It asks you not to follow anything that you have no knowledge . Do not accept anything that you cannot ascertain and doubt. Every human has a big responsibility to themselves. They have to seek knowledge, to read, to understand, to ponder and to find and seek the truth and knowledge by using their hearts, eyes and ears because at the end, they will responsible for all their actions. Nobody is a bearer of other people's sins. Something or anything that raises doubts and questions are worth to be studied and ponder further so that we are not in error and further from the truth. To find the truth takes a lot of actions and efforts. Many people are just satisfied with the knowledge, information or belief that they have and live with that for the rest of their lives.
And among men is he who disputes about Allah without knowledge or guidance , or a Book giving light (from Allah).
(Al-Quran; Al-Hajj:8)

Something that must and worth to ponder on are as follows;

1) There is no verses in the Bible where Jesus (p.b.u.h) claimed himself directly as God and asked his people to worship him. Is this information satisfy you or raise a doubt ?
God says in Al-Quran
"O My Slaves who believe!
Certainly spacious is My Earth
Therefore, Worship Me"(Alone)
(Al-Quran A-Ankabut 29:56)
Can you any verses similar like this in the Bibble ?
2)The likeness of Isa (Jesus as ) is like Adam as. Allah creates what He wills.

"Verily, the likeness of Jesus in Allah's sight is like the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then said to him, Be!, and he was."(Quran Al-Imran 3:59)
No son (or offspring) did Allah beget, nor is there any ilah (God) along with Him. (If there had been many gods) , then each god would have taken away what he had created, and some would have tried to overcome others! Glorified is Allah above all that they attribute to Him.
(Al-Quran, Al-Mu'minun;91)

What make you disbelieve this?
Every Muslim believes it.
What make you disbelieve the Quran?
There are a lot of explanations about Trinity and they are very confusing.The truth should always be simple and easy to understand.Find out about about pagan religions and their Gods e.g. Osiris, Mithra etc and why there are many similarities with Christianity beliefs.

Are you just a follower but not a believer ?

And they worship besides Allah for which He has sent down no authority , and of which they have no knowledge; and for the Zalimun (wrongdoers, polytheist and disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) there is no helper. ( Al-Quran Al-Hajj 22:71)

And those who disbelieved, will not cease in doubt about it (this Quran) until the Hour comes suddenly upon them, or there comes to them the torment of the Day after which there will be no night (i.e the Day of Resurrection ) ( Qur'an Al-Hajj 22:55)

Have they not traveled through the land, and have they hearts wherewith to understand and ears wherewith to hear? Verily, it is not the eyes that grow blind, but it is the hearts which are in breasts that grow blind. (Al-Quran Al-Hajj 22:46)
You reject this verse but accept the disturbing sex stories in the Bible?
3)Pagan Religions: The Cult of Mithras – So many Similarity with Christianity beliefs. A pure coincidence or a copy?

During the Roman Empire besides, Mithra was one of most successful religions besides Christianity and other antiquities. The religion emerged at almost the same time as Christianity. Mithra was derived from the ancient Persian (Iranian) God of light and wisdom. In the course of time, the religion developed and become very influential particularly on Rome’s army officer and legionaries. In the 2nd and 3rd centuries, Mithra religion was equal in strength to Christianity, and both sects competed with Rome’s many traditional divinities. To obtain influence with and protection from Roman emperors, both sects resorted to denunciation, accusing each other of blasphemy and of imitating sacred ceremonies. The conflict went on for decades until finally Emperor Constantine (who was the sole ruler in the Western Roman Empire) declared Christianity in favour of Mithra to be the state religion.
He was called son of God
He was crucified.
He was born of a virgin on December 25th.
He was considered a great travelling teacher and master.
He had 12 companions or disciples.
He performed miracles. He was buried in a tomb.
He was atoned for the sins of mankind
After three days he rose from the dead .
Mithra was called "the Good Shepherd."
He was considered "the Way, the Truth and the Light, the Redeemer,
the Savior, the Messiah." He was identified with both the Lion and the Lamb. His sacred day was Sunday
Some 19th-century historian scholars like Ernest Renan held the opinion that "had Christianity fallen victim to a deadly disease soon after its birth, the world would now worship Mithras"
I doubted that.
The cult of Mithra's ideology and ideas are still alive and very similar with Christianity beliefs.
Paul, a Jew, bore Hebrew name Saul , the apostle to the Gentiles was also an expert on Pagan religions. Many believe that he was the real founder of Christianity and not Isa ( Jesus p.b.u.h) The knowledge about him comes from his own letters and from Book of Acts by his companion Luke.
4) Paul- The real founder of Christianity
Out of the total 27 Books of the New Testament, more than half is authored by Paul. He never met Isa (Jesus p.b.u.h) all his life.
Extracted from Wikipedia , the free encyclopedia, discription of Paul .
Saul, also known as Paul, Paulus, and Saint Paul the Apostle, (AD 367) is widely considered to be central to the early development and spread of Christianity, particularly westward from Judea. Many Christians view him as an important interpreter of the teachings of Jesus. Paul is described in the New Testament as a Hellenized Jew and Roman citizen from Tarsus (present-day Turkey), and as a persistent persecutor of early Christians, almost all of whom were Jewish, prior to his "Road to Damascus" experience, which brought about his conversion to faith in Jesus as Messiah, not only for Jews, but for all, regardless of ethnic background. Paul made the first great effort, through his Epistles to Gentile Christian communities, to show that the God of Abraham is for all people, rather than for Jews only, though he did not originate the idea; for example, see Isaiah 56:6-8 or 'proselyte', or Simon Peter's vision of the sheet descending from Heaven in the Book of Acts.
Paul is
venerated as a Saint by all the churches that honor saints, including those of the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, and Anglican traditions, and some Lutheran sects. He is the 'patron saint' of the City of London and has also had several cities named in his honor, including Sao Paulo, Brazil and Saint Paul, Minnesota in the United States. He did much to advance Christianity among the Gentiles, and is considered to be one source (if not the primary source) of early Church doctrine, and the founder of Pauline Christianity. His epistles form a fundamental section of the New Testament. Some argue that he was instrumental in establishing Christianity as a distinct religion, rather than a sect of Judaism, as Christianity was first known.
Due to his body of work and his undoubted influence on the development of Christianity, many modern scholars have considered Paul to be the founder of Christianity, who modified Jesus' teachings and added important new doctrines. However, this view remains controversial. Many Christian scholars say that no teachings were modified, and assert that Paul taught in complete
harmony with Jesus. Some Christians, however, particularly those who embrace dispensationalism, believe that Jesus' teachings are for the Jews — especially those teachings found in Matthew — and that Christians necessarily have a different belief system since Christianity, according to this perspective, only arose as a result of the rejection by the Jews of Jesus as their Messiah.
5)The teachings of Paul.
Resurrection of Christ
"Remember Jesus Christ, raised fom the dead, a descendant of David - that is my Gospel"
(The letter of Paul to Timothy (2:8)
Original sins
"Sin came into the world through one man (Adam) and his sin brought death with it. As a result, death has spread to the whole human race because everyone has sinned"
(The letter of Paul to the Romans 5:12)
Son of God
Paul gave new meaning to the term "son of God" which is common in Biblical language.
"Immediately he(Paul) began to proclaim Jesus in the synagogues saying "He is the son of God"
(Acts 9:20)
Isa (Jesus p.b.u.h) as God
Paul modified the status of Jesus gradually from mediator between God and man and finally 'equal to God '
'For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus"
(The first letter of aul to Timothy 2:5)
"Through Him (Jesus) God was pleased to reconcile to Himself all things, whether on earth or in heaven by making peace through the blood of His Cross"
(The letter of Paul to the Collossians 1:20)
"For if while we were enemise , we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son"
(The letter of Paul to the Romans 5:10)

"'For in Him all the fullness of deity dwells bodily" (The letter of Paul to the Collossians)

6) Why there are many illicit sex stories in the Bible including rape, incest etc. ? The stories are very disturbing and very pornographic too.

Some example as follows;

Judah and his daughter- in-laws
But Onan knew that the children would not belong to him (i.e would not carry his name) so when he had INTERCOURSE with his brother's widow (Tamar) , he let the semen spill on the ground, so that there would be no children (no name) for his brother . (Genesis 38:8-9)

Father have full control over their daughters
"If a man takes a wife and, after laying with her, dislikes her and slanders her and gives her a bad name, saying, 'I married this woman but when I approached her, I did not find proof of her virginity,' then the girl's father and mother shall bring proof [how do you think they would do that?] that she was a virgin to the town elders at the gate. The girl's father will say to the elders, 'I gave my daughter in marriage to this man, but he dislikes her. Now he has slandered her and said, 'I did not find your daughter to be a virgin.' But here is the proof of my daughter's virginity.' Then her parents shall display the cloth [the father would literally stick his two fingers covered with a piece of cloth into his daughter's vagina before she gets married and keep that bloody cloth for as long as his daughter is married] with before the elders of the town, and the elders shall take the man and punish him. (NIV Bible, Deuteronomy 22:13-18)"

Doesn't it disturb you? How do you explain to your kids and how can you accept it and what made you accept such disturbing stories in the Bible?

Incest in the Bible
Lot and His two daughters
30. Now Lot went up out of Zoar and settled in the hills with his two daughters, for he was afraid to stay in Zoar; so he lived in a cave with his two daughters. 31 And the firstborn said to the younger, "Our father is old, and there is not a man on earth to come in to us after the manner of all the world. 32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, so that we may preserve offspring through our father." 33 So they made their father drink wine that night; and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; he did not know when she lay down or when she rose. 34 On the next day, the firstborn said to the younger, "Look, I lay last night with my father; let us make him drink wine tonight also; then you go in and lie with him, so that we may preserve offspring through our father." 35 So they made their father drink wine that night also; and the younger rose, and lay with him; and he did not know when she lay down or when she rose. 36 Thus both the daughters of Lot became pregnant by their father. 37 The firstborn bore a son, and named him Moab; he is the ancestor of the Moabites to this day. 38 The younger also bore a son and named him Ben-ammi; he is the ancestor of the Ammonites to this day.
(Bibble Genesis 19: 30-38)

What kind of messages do these disturbing sex stories send to the children, parents , society of anybody who read it? It is definately a bad message and example .

7) Quran talks about creation of human beings and animals.

Allah has created every moving (living) creature from water . Of them there are some that creep on their bellies , and some that walk in two legs, and some that walk on four. Allah creates what He wills. Verily, Allah is Able to do all things. (Quran An-Nur 24:45)
This is one of scientific miracles of the Al- Quran.
What does it tell you?

More scientific miracles of Al-quran
And it is He Who has created man from water, and has appointed for him kindred by blood, and kindred by marriage. And your Lord is Ever All-Powerful to do what He wills
(Al-Quran; Al-Furqan:54)
And it is He Who has let free the two seas (kinds of water ) , this is palatable and sweet, and that is salt and bitter; and He has set barrier and a complete partitionbetween them.
(Al-Quran, Al-Furqan:53)
8) Isa (Jesus p.b.u.h ) is a prophet in Barnabas Bible.
Please read and visit

It is interesting to note that there were bishops during the first three hundred years of the Church that were teaching that Jesus (pbuh) was a prophet. It was only after the conversion of Emperor Constantine that the doctrine of the Trinity was introduced.

9) Most religions somehow believe in human form's God. Most religions are worshipper and followers of human beings , except for Islam .
1) Christian - Prophet Isa (Jesus p.b.u.h) as God
2) Hindu -Brahma, Vishnu and Siva
3) Buddha - Buddha
4)Sinkh- Guru Nanak

108)Do not forget history! Who killed around 6 millions Jews during World War 11 and what was the reason? During the middle ages Christians treated Jews terribly. Now Christians are the champion of Jewish people. I refer to US- Israel relationship.

11) Who killed Isa (Jesus p.b.u.h) ? The Jews or the Romans?
The Jews Said We killed Him- Quran says They Killed Him Not, Nor Crucified Him
And because of their (Jews ) disbelief and uttering against Maryam[Mary (sa)] a grave false charge (that she has committed illegal sexual intercourse) ; And because of their saying (in boast) " We killed Messiah 'Isa (Jesus) son of Mary , the Messenger of Allah, -but they killed him not, nor crucified him , but appeared so to them [the resemblance of Isa (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man)], and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely , they killed him not [ i.e Isa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)sa] , But Allah raised him [Isa (Jesus)] up unto Himself . And Allah is Ever All-Powerful, All wise.(Qur'an An-Nisa 4:156-157)

10)No Crucifixion- no Christianity
Christian theology is centered around the death of Jesus. All Christian beliefs about God, creation , sin and death have their focal point in the crucified Christ.
Don't you agree with this statement?

12) Isa (IJesus p.b.u.h) was put to death by his people and he did not volunteer himself to the cross. Some said Romans and other said Jews who responsible for his death and Al-Quran has given the answer.The main point here, he was forced to his death by his people and this is well described in the Bible and also mentiond in Al-Quran.
Ironically after that (hundred years later) he was declared and prophesied as a Savior and a God!
If we examine the Jews' history, The Jews used to reject and persecute God's messengers who were sent to them. They charged some with imposture and killed some others e.g. Zachariah, John the Baptist and including Isa (Jesus p.b.u.h). The Jews, throughout history always adopting a hostile attitude towards the Divine Guidance and the messengers preaching it. They were always ambitious to establish a Jewish empire in the belief that the were meant to be the masters of the world and the chosen race of God. God's messengers were regarded as a big challange to them. When Isa ( Jesus p.b.u.h) was sent to them , they rejected and persecuted him and they were very anxious to kill him.

13) The mission of Isa (Jesus p.b.u.h.): A Prophet only to the Lost sheep of the house of Israel ( only to the Jews people at the time and not to all human races )

In the Gospel
He Isa [Jesus (p.b.u.h)] replied, " I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." (Matthew 15:24)

" These twelve ( Isa' disciples) Isa [Jesus(p.b.u.h)] sent out with the charge: Do not go to the Gentiles nor enter a Samaritan city, but rather go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."( Matthew 10:5-6)

In the Qur'an
"We granted Our favor to him [Isa (as)] , and We made him an example to the Children of Israel."( Qur'an 43:59)
"And Allah will teach him [Isa(as)] the Book and Wisdom, The Taurat (Torah) and the Injil (Bible) , And appoint him a Messenger to the Children of Israel...

13) The mission of Prophet Muhammad s.a.w was to give messages to to all human races in the world . He was the last prophet.
Blessed is He Who sent down the criterion (of right and wrong) to His slave (Muhammad s.a.w) that he may be warner to the Alamin (mankind and jinn)
(Quran Al-Furqan 25:1)

14) Darkness in the sea
Or [the unbelievers' state] are like the darkness of a fathomless sea which is covered by waves above which are waves above which are clouds, layers of darkness, one upon the other. If he puts out his hand, he can scarcely see it. Those Allah gives no light to, they have no light. (Qur'an; An-Nur 24:40)

This is such a beautiful verse. Can you give better comparison than this ?


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    By Blogger 'Thought & Humor', at 7:21 AM  

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    By Blogger 'Thought & Humor', at 7:26 AM  

  • Sorry my friend but you are wrong
    in # 1 - (haven't had time to read
    further). Jesus DID claim to be God
    when He said "I and the Father are
    ONE..." - that's why the some of
    the Jewish leaders picked up stones
    to kill Him. They thought He was
    blaspheming. Also the Virgin Birth
    proves He was God, 2nd Member of
    the Holy Trinity ( 1 God but 3
    Persons - a mystery) & the Son of
    God. .

    Also when He said before Moses
    was - "I am" was claiming that
    He was God... (John 8:58)

    Quoting C.S. Lewis:

    I am trying here to prevent
    anyone from saying the really
    foolish thing that people often
    say about Him [Jesus Christ]:

    "I'm ready to accept Jesus as
    a great moral teacher, but I
    don't accept His claim to be

    That is the one thing we must
    not say. A man who wasmerely
    a man and said the sort of
    things Jesus said would not
    be a great moral teacher.
    He would either be a lunatic --
    on a level with a man who says
    he is a poached egg -- or else
    he would be the Devil of Hell.

    You must make your choice. Either
    this Man was, and is, the Son of
    God, or else a madman or something
    worse ....

    You can shut Him up for fool,
    you can spit at Him and kill
    Him as a demon; or you can fall
    at His feet and call Him Lord
    and God. But let us not come up
    with any patronizing nonsense
    about His being a great human
    teacher. He has not left that
    option open to us. He did not
    intend to.

    Now a question for you: Who
    loves you so much that He died
    for you???

    By Blogger 'Thought & Humor', at 7:34 AM  

  • Three in one
    Trimurti or Trinity
    Why not just one?
    The likeness of Jesus is just like Adam. The simple truth.

    By Blogger Matahari, at 7:45 PM  

  • Isa (Jesus p.b.u.h)
    did not die on the cross .
    God killed himself to save the people? God the saviour and God loves you to much to kill himself.Why not God just forgive you. Osiris, Mitriah, even Hindu's Gods did that too. Many pagan Gods did that too.

    By Blogger Matahari, at 7:53 PM  

  • Isa (Jesus p.b.u.h)Jesus did claimd himself as God?
    The answer please visit

    By Blogger Matahari, at 9:50 PM  

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